When I was 15, 16 and joining this band when I was 18, I was just enthralled, and going to a basement and seeing it filled with kids was the best thing in the world. Now I'm looking at it like 'Basements? Is that really as good as it gets here?' And now there are Buffalo bands saying they're only going to play basements, like a rebellion thing. For us, there weren't any other options.