When Penn State jumped, that had an impact on the EWL. That's a national-name school leaving the league. It always drew big crowds.

I don't think the quality of wrestling in Pennsylvania has fallen off. In fact, it might have gotten better. But with that comes a recruiting feeding frenzy of college coaches. It's hard to find a sleeper anymore.

I don't think so. High schools, maybe you can say that. But not colleges, because you have the ability to (recruit) wrestlers. It's a matter of going out and using your (scholarship) money. If you do your homework, you can build your program.

This is great for the school district and downtown Pine Bluff.

That's really been an enjoyable thing on my part. Those three guys coach with the middle school team. I don't know if the kids know how talented they are, but all three were some of the best in the state. We're very fortunate to have those guys.

Being an old school teacher, I look at this as a final exam for my seniors. For the other 15 kids in that locker room, this was the first game of next year.