When we talk about harbor expansion, that's one method for doing it. In all fairness, you want to make sure that you've done this kind of evaluation because you just can't arbitrarily exclude things.

One of the things they have got to do _ we've got to plead for _ is to make sure that when these hospitals get evacuated, the National Guard or somebody is there putting major security around these hospitals, or they're going to get ransacked. And it's going to make a bad situation even worse.

We collectively want to explore the possibilities of how to underwrite the cost. We want to see if there are other business models out there as opposed to our traditional method of the state funding it all and relying on user fees to pay for it. It would save us money and let us do it in a way that would achieve these ends more quickly.

The reason we don't currently do that, or historically have never done that, is the ports are small.

We certainly aren't where we would prefer to be, and certainly the intent is to try to catch-up.

When we talk about loving your enemy here, it means something. And we're not sure that you can do that.