When you balance it against New Order, New Order don't work or tour relentlessly. We definitely work in our own way and sometimes it's a bit too slow for me, so I like to plan ahead and fill my time up.

My big frustration in New Order was that they played the same tracks all the time.

They amaze me most of those remixes. Some of them are crap. But every time I complain, someone comes up and says they are for a different market that you don't understand. Some of the New Order ones are really great, though.

Once you made that decision to split New Order up, you were like, 'Woo-hoo! I better get out there and get a job.'

To me, New Order split up when Bernard and I stopped writing together. We started Joy Division together; we started New Order together.

'Movement' sounded like Joy Division, but 'Power, Corruption & Lies' is the first New Order record.