When you look at the whole region, we make it really attractive to retired people. We call ourselves planners and town managers, but that doesn't mean we know how to make these things work right.

We should call him Bubba.

I never really talk about the other goalies. I'll have lots of time when I'm retired to talk about the other goalies.

When God speaks, oftentimes His voice will call for an act of courage on our part.

But will they come when you do call for them?

They learned that when they organize in the region, it is a lot better and more effective to use locals to do their job. But they have to be trained, and they have to be indoctrinated enough so that they themselves believe in the cause just like the originals did.