When you write music that expresses doubt or concern, or talks about some of the darker things that a developing human goes through, people will come out of the woodwork to listen to someone else say it out loud.

A lot of things you do to cover up insecurities can be just as harmful to you as anything else.

There's been many times when a producer will say, 'I don't think you want to say that.' We were told we shouldn't be so brutally honest about songwriting or radio or the industry.

I remember the first time I ever showed my parents a song that I had written. The content may have been a little darker than they were used to, or really introspective in a way that may have been uncomfortable. I thought they'd retaliate with some kind of judgment or concern about whether I was feeling all right, but they were proud of it.

Music can connect people on an intimate level. What Josh and I are trying to do is represent anyone who has some of the questions that we have.

It is true that if you hear our music described, it sounds unappealing. I used to laugh and agree with people when they said it didn't make any sense.