You can't rent a building anymore for $500. Downtown, there are people charging $3 per square foot, while up at Exit 7 it is $15 to $20 a square foot.

None of these places, of course, are charging any rent,

That's about what the square footage is in downtown apartments.

We started small with one store in Birdsboro, which was probably a 5,000-square-foot garage, and it has just grown over the years.

It just makes sense. We want to build four-bedroom units in a 60,000-square-foot building; the next person may want to build 60 two-bedroom units in that 60,000 square feet. Either way, the building stays the same size.

Enough is enough, and we need to get it under control now. People who should be paying rent or buying food for their children are putting money in (the machines) to try and make a little extra money. In most cases it won't improve their situation, it will make it worse.