You work just as hard on every unsolved homicide, but that connection maybe has made it a little tougher that we haven't solved it.

CALEA made a very clear distinction between telecommunication services and information services. It's very clear Congress envisioned information services to be the Internet. This was 1994 and their comprehension of what the Internet would become was not very clear but they were very prescient in knowing it would require different rules.

If it didn't have Gillette, Procter & Gamble would be in a tougher spot.

It's clear that there is a connection.

I think it was a combination of things. The Blues were deeper than we were and maybe a little tougher, and their power play was unbelievable. But in the last 18 months, the climate's changed a little bit.

Maybe subconsciously I feel I was meant to work hard for a living.