Actually, actually, when he first put us into hypnosis, he didn't know what he was going to get.

Only medical hypnosis is capable of opening up amnesia.

When they first grabbed us, yeah, it terrified, but they calmed me down.

In fact, if you have a crime committed against you, and you go to have hypnosis, you can't testify. Because there's no way to test what is real, what's fact, what's fantasy.

The first person who contacted us was the assistant to President Eisenhower... in the White House.

So actually we didn't have any contacts with UFO organizations. It was all strictly government.