Anytime you have anything that even smacks of scandal, I think it hurts all of us,

Anytime you have anything that even smacks of scandal, I think it hurts all of us.

Any time you have anything that smacks of scandal, it hurts all of us,

I don't take any pride in this news at all,

It is a dilemma. It's very painful, ... It just pushes off - that much more - the day when we can bring our budget into balance.

If we do it, it's a budget disaster,