Hollander said. ''He suggested maybe making four or five alternatives.

We're going to look at both alternatives and maybe some other alternatives too while we're at it to see what the best way is to execute that protection.

We said we had to win five in a row. We've got four done ... feels a lot better than it did at 5-6. We're playing at a high level at the right time and what we've got to do is get to the big dance and see what happens at that point. All we're asking for is a shot.

Over the last four, five years, you've seen some of the things, and maybe we did bend over too much for Ronnie to try to help him. But I can sleep good at night, knowing we did the best we could.

These pandas are immature. They won't be physically mature for three or four, maybe five more years, so we got a ways to wait. I hope soon thereafter they will breed and produce offspring and then we'll study that mother with her baby.

We sometimes run one mile hard and one mile easy, and we do this for maybe four or five miles.