I don't know Jose. I was better than Jose then, and I've been better than him his whole career.

These individuals on steroids, does it enhance their career, does it give them a little more strength, a little more stamina, a little more psychological edge? Absolutely. How do you determine what - what their stats would be without steroids? It's impossible to tell.

I injected him probably twice. But it wasn't like-I mean we would just walk in and-a lot of times they were pill form. A lot of times, you know, you would just-a quick injection of whatever and that's it.

An athlete-an athlete may prepare his needle and may ask another athlete to inject him quickly. And that's the way it works.

We spoke about it quite in depth. And-you know when I op-when-when I rejoined the team back in '97, we'd be working out-talking about it. You know we'd go into clubhouses and do steroids. Bottom line.

He is incredible. No one can even stand in his shoes - not Babe Ruth, not anyone. He's in a league of his own.