I think it will take about 15,000 ordinary jobs to make up for the lost Ford jobs.

It feels good. For them to do well we have to do out jobs. We don't need to be on the cover of magazines. As long as they are (on magazine covers) we know we're doing our jobs and we are comfortable with that.

That's quite a long-term thing. But I also think that Ford is doing a lot of work in that area anyway. They're not amateurs, they've been working on hybrids and other fuel systems for a long period of time -- all those manufacturers have been. So they might be interested.

If the Ford plant goes, it's going to hurt.

I've lost two jobs this season because I couldn't get people — any people. And I'm one of the largest labor suppliers around here. If I'm having trouble, everybody's having trouble.

All 15 towns in the watershed that are up for new permits will get their new permits sometime in the coming year, hopefully by the spring. It will be interesting to see how many then ask for administrative law review.