I want to do just, like, regular art. Whatever is made today on canvas goes up against all of art history. It's the most radical thing.

I just try to get away with as much as I can. I don't think that's very radical in the art world.

As soon as street art got popular, I was just like, 'I'm out of here.'

You have to look at it as a piece of artwork.

I wasn't trying to turn graffiti into an art form. I just wanted to learn about art. I wanted to learn this game.

Compelling art to me is a name carved into a tree. Sometimes a rock soaring through a plate of glass can be the most beautiful, compelling work of art I have ever seen.