It is an industry with huge capital investment at the beginning. But the return will be stable and lucrative.

If you win a bid for rubbish disposal, you are destined to be a long-time partner. It shows the importance of grabbing the chance at the very beginning.

They choose to establish joint ventures with us because it helps them to obtain market shares in advance. Another reason could be China's rubbish content is different from many other countries. Their technology needs some local adjustments.

There is no "ROI" without the "I."

We're not going to see any return on our investment in this program. But it's so much more important from a strategic point of view to see what really interests people. And honestly, some of the ideas that students have come up with are better than things we've venture-funded to the tune of $2 million.

Various Chinese industry chambers do not attach enough importance to the FTA.