It shows he's rusty and needs more time.

Lloyd's a long-time Pirate and an upstanding guy. He's done a great job for us through the years as a player, as a coach. We certainly appreciate his efforts.

Obviously, we've got limited time, and it takes timing to be major-league ready. You don't go from zero to 100.

[Some chefs] who come from the restaurant kitchen have a hard time identifying with the needs of the home cook,

In retrospect, it was a mistake. If I had it to do all over again, we certainly wouldn't have (not protected Shelton). As we are now seeing it, the power is obviously there with him.

I think there's probably more enthusiasm, energy and excitement about where we're at. I think there's more hope and enthusiasm with regards to where we're at and where we'll be in the next two to four years.