It's probably more macro than it is Cisco. Cisco is eating off lots of people's plates. The call made it clear that Cisco is taking market share.

If you're throwing darts at the wall, maybe.

Never say never, but this is as close as you can get to never. It's ludicrous on the face of it, and it's not any more believable the longer you think about it.

We believe Cisco will not meet consensus revenue estimates in fiscal 2002 and expect it will no longer be able to rely on appreciating stock as a currency,

That's something I got to go home and call my dad and tell him about. He'll probably be more excited about it than I am.

I think what they probably had was a couple of days (to get out). There are lots of skeletons but thousands and thousands of footprints.