Nelson does not have the strong persona that Bob Graham had.

I admire those old road dogs, Willie Nelson, Bob Dylan. That's their life.

He is so different from his persona, not angry at all,

Sometimes journalists try to create a persona that's not really there.

I don't want you to get the impression we strong-armed them. We just said it would not be a good career move.

I've worked with some of the best of them. Not just directors like Sam Peckinpah and David Lynch, but writers like Sam Shepard and singers like Bob Dylan, Willie Nelson, and Kris Kristofferson.