There's a lot of different people in a lot of different situations, but I think the bigger picture is 2008.

When you have people enjoying the hills and hiking that evolves into the [Stough Canyon] nature center and then becomes a hub of the offerings up there,

There's clearly an acknowledgment at the management level that there's a pending crisis.

Many collectors died in process of searching for new species, and despite persistent reports that the men died from drowning, gunshot and knife wounds, snakebite, trampling by cattle, or blows in the head with blunt instruments, it is generally accepted that in each case the primary cause of death was orchid fever.

Today was a bit step forward for the entire team. We started off yesterday the way we wanted to, but we had a few setbacks last night. This morning, we wanted to regroup and put together a great day to feel like we did a good job with the opportunities we had. I think we accomplished that goal. Tonight gives us good momentum for the remaining three days.

This is a cash flow positive company. Right now their customers, advertisers and publishers are having a hard time, and if too many of them collapse it could be a problem, but I think some of these guys [Web companies] are going to figure it out,