They are a good bunch of people trying to do a very difficult thing.

My personal view is that neither UC nor NNSA is trying to harm the present employees.

You make a lifetime commitment when you go into the weapons program.

The reason we feel those things are important is because we care about maintaining the science excellence at the laboratory.

It isn't just about money.

That turned out to be mistake. We had (too many) people outside trying to get in and (others) outside scalping tickets.