They are a good tenant, one of our top 10 anchors now. They draw people to our properties.

The idea is to create an environment where people can have the best of all worlds.

Early accounts coming in to us say that people are running across malls to the department stores to take advantage of the best deals.

We always did say we were going to look at the fountain and see if we can keep it. If not, we were committed to a water structure.

They're very popular with retailers and municipalities who like it because it gives a sense of place, the New Urbanism so popular with customers, popular with tenants and municipalities. It's a great environment for us.

There's some flexibility and creativity in terms of lease agreements. But it is not uncommon for leases in the industry in general to be that long.