We have the hope that it will be before Christmas.

People will get up in the middle of the night to see the pandas.

People will get up in the middle of the night to see the pandas. I don't think there is a comparable animal. There isn't the enormity of response that you find with pandas.

There have been serious discussions by representatives of the four zoos to ask if there are ways that the price of keeping pandas can be negotiated downward.

It really is turning out to be somewhat of a hardship.

We've come to realize that the current arrangement may not be financially viable over the long term.