We're fairly certain this is the direction we want to go and it is a good opportunity to meet with the public again.

People are definitely getting more used to them. The engineering community is really beginning to embrace them.

What is really sad is he had an incredible opportunity to lead this department in a new direction, but he chose to alienate people. Our members are tired, they're demoralized, we have an unclear chain of command, and the management team is in complete disarray. It all happened under Mr. Hickman's watch.

What is really sad is he had an incredible opportunity to lead this department in a new direction, but he chose to alienate people.

I think [Temple] went in the direction of somebody with more experience. Rick will get his opportunity one day.

This is an issue that all hospitals with maternity services are facing.