We've got to find land uses that allow for the economy to grow and change.

This is about redevelopment areas in Oakland perceived to be more valuable for uses other than industrial uses. Slowly, the industrial base in Oakland is eroding. We're seeing evidence of that in the east and west parts of the city.

No change, though you lie under / The land you used to plough.

In my opinion, that has to change. If we are to grow as a region as a tech-based economy, and a knowledge-based economy, we have to embrace those ideas, or at least be willing to be open-minded or experimental about that. It's not a question of are we ready for this in some cultural sense -- enough people are for this to happen. It's one we have to embrace.

I think Iowa is really going through a massive change as a rural economy moving urban. The fact is, the family farm tends to be a nostalgic myth, to be honest about it. Companies like Cargill, Iowa Beef Processors, Pioneer Hybrid, corn companies, beef companies, pig companies have basically taken over the family farm and moved it into a large corporate enterprise.

This is something we're always conscious of -- any effects in the economy that might change the factors involved in the costs of projects.