We've had some very famous people through Iowa who failed in the caucuses -- John Glenn, Ted Kennedy drew huge crowds here, but were never able to convert that into caucus support.

This is inside baseball here, ... The vast majority of people here never pay attention to the caucuses.

If he doesn't achieve 40 or 45 percent, maybe more, he will not be judged a winner in Iowa. On the other hand, if Steve Forbes breaks 25 to 30 percent, the press will be saying there's a second challenger in New Hampshire.

If he doesn't achieve 40 or 45 percent, maybe more, he will not be judged a winner in Iowa,

The nature of the game is meeting your expectations. If if you meet your expectations, you are a winner. If you exceed your expectations, you're a winner. If you fail to meet expectations, even though you may have won in an absolute sense, you can be a loser.

In politics, if you win by an insufficient score, you may be a loser,