What we're trying to do is set the bar a little bit higher. This has been a very contentious, very emotional (issue).

There must be a higher bar for impeachment.

It was contentious. You could sense a little bit of hostility but it was a productive meeting. I'm hoping it de-escalated the situation.

It didn't go smoothly; it was the most contentious thing I've ever done.

great deal more contentious.

We know where the bar is set. You don't really get recognized unless you win a national title.