People who play this game learn to love it, and the camaraderie issue is what it's all about. It's a sport where you block and tackle and beat up each other, but after you go out and have a party.

There are a huge amount of girls out there who want to play a contact sport, who play powder puff football and stuff like that. If you look on my teams, I've had little girls. I had a girl that was 4-foot-11 and she could tackle as well as anybody.

I would say 75 percent of my girls go on to college. And I would say 90 percent of that group goes on to play rugby in college.

She outshines everybody else. After two months of practice and one-and-a-half months of games, she was noticed by the West Chester coach and she was picked to up to U-19 trials. That's the best of all.

They grow up playing softball, basketball, field whatever-it-is. The thing about rugby that's so great is these kids come out, and in one season, they learn to play the game. And not only that, they've learned how to play and to win the championship.

It's still a matter of getting five people to play hard all the time. I think they're becoming more competitive. They're becoming less accepting of this, and that's important.