Talk about pioneering stuff. There it was, ground zero. This was a very substantial Supreme Court case that originated in Lee County.

This is a good case to take to the Supreme Court.

My reading of that case is that the U.S. Supreme Court has said that the state legislature has plenary power, full power, in respect to appointment of presidential electors and that power cannot be eroded even by the state constitution,

I think probably that this is a case that will go to the Supreme Court, which means you probably won't have a verdict until 10 years down the line.

Huntington Beach is like ground zero for surfers.

Ground zero for me is audio.